1.5 million Chinese descended from one man

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/02/chinese_descendants

Single Chinese man spawned 1.5m

Descendants a-go-go for Qing dynasty grandad

By Lester Haines
Published Wednesday 2nd November 2005 14:15 GMT

Researchers have discovered that 1.5 million Chinese men from north-east China and Mongolia are directly descended from one busy chap called Giocangga - grandad of the founder of the Qing dynasty.

According the the BBC, the high prevalence of a set of genes passed on from Giocangga's Y chromosome is due to his offsprings' hard work in the wife and concubine department. Wellcome Trust Sanger geneticist Chris Tyler-Smith, who made the discovery, explained: "What we did was analyse around 1,000 men from that part of the world. We noticed just two types of Y chromosome that were extraordinarily frequent - one of them making up around 3% of our sample.

When Tyler-Smith's team looker closer, they found the genes in question absent in the majority Han population, but present in around five per cent of local ethnic minorities, including Mongolians. They used this to track down the genes' origin - north-east China around 500 years ago.

Tyler Smith elaborated: "We soon realised there was a major historical event going on at this time - the establishment of the Qing dynasty, which conquered China and ruled for several hundred years. It was ruled by the Qing imperial nobility, who were a highly privileged elite class, and they had several wives and concubines. Because of the privilege, they could have had many children - and those children would have had a good chance of survival."

The figures stack up thus: the Chinese population in Giocangga's time was around 100 million, compared to 1.3 billion now. Accordingly, your common or garden non-royal from that time might expect to boast just 20 descendants today*. Giocangga, on the other hand, racks up a whopping 1.5 million.

Tyler-Smith concluded: "The difference is accounted for by the large number of wives and concubines - and in particular, this practice being linked to the Y chromosome for many generations."(C)[/quote]

[b-lee]

Whoa... thats crazy.

Ghengis Khan had around 500 wives/concubines i think.... i wonder how many ppl are related to him -laugh

[Knoctur_nal]

guess we know what he did in his spare time...

[remix]

Man, that's CRAZY.

[sitorbewwi]

holy.. he could compete with rabbits in the breeding competition..

[mashimaro23]

lol^^

what a horny man.

[Akademik]

fuck..... is that why all dem chiney mans look the same?

joking!

[MissChatterbox]

Holy crap!!! Man that's alotta descendants.....

[karmy]

yeah... when you think about it though.... most chinese people are proabably related one way or another from like hundreds of years ago....

[dolongdao]

what a pimp omg lol

[Eve]

1.5 million descendants? That's crazy, now I know why they say it's better to marry someone who's not the same race as you.

[imisu]

there's something like that about Ghengis Khan and his people or something, i forgot the statistics though

[LostOne.TR]

wonder how much of hismoneyisleft...from allthe trickle down.

[clui11]

Does that mean if some rich chinese man dies i can fight for his fortunes? since we're all related one way or another :p

P.S. Not that i wish death upon anyone

[wazesz]

im pretty sure everyone is related in some way or another if u date it back long enough, so its not a surprise that 1.5 mil ppl descended from him.

[Fai]

me so horny...

[Kayan]

dang ><

[nebil17]

holy shit.

[!!!TwiLite!!!]

WHOA....thats interesting...yup kings and their concubines

[arose4me]

funny but eww. it'll be kind of gross if i get with someone who turns out to be a relative.

[kakashijounin]

wow, that is insanity

[lefthanded]

what useless information

[SanGai]

Eh...I guess we all gotta come from somewhere.

[Danny]

That's what a Emperor do everynight! 365 days a year with a different mate each night. What a lucky man :D

[BerZerk]

are there any proof? hahaha

[nguyetzahra]

dang...guy must have been busy

[j_29]

haha his relations must be more confusing than father's day in harlem =P

[x2005x]

lol carzy

[aznchaos]

that was part of my dream...but i would spread my offspring in other countries as well so i can leave my legend around the world...hee hee

[dmarc]

That is insane... did he die of over-indulgence? Hahaha...

[breakersrevenge]

me so horny...

Me last looooooooong time!!!

[terencew]

Wow.

[seraphinxo]

something about that just isn't right?

[cerad]

It's not really surprising actually. I once read that genghis khan's descendants went as far as the middle east

[naruto1314]

wow

[DragonLoaded]

wow indeed -lol

[dayofnight]

dude ... no sh1t ... u kno dat the emperor of china had more den 3000 wives or watever they call it ... so it wont suprise me a bit .... but damn.... i have to say... dat man is damn horny ...

[hkguy]

damn that is some crazy stuff

[lumines]

dude thats crazy...we could be brothers/sisters

[fishymel]

dang he is one horny guy. even so, props to him for being able to have that many concubines. just wondering what diseases he got...

[fishymel]

fuck..... is that why all dem chiney mans look the same?

joking!

that's actually funny though....sad but funny...

[P0tat0]

whoa nice hha

[sally09]

Wow that's insane.

[BunJai]

thats a whole lot of people descended from one man....

[tn2005]

wow thanks for sharing the history of mankind!

[b.b.briann]

interesting haha

[ceetal]

hahah wow crazy.. so we're all family!

[cyberneonate]

woa!

Very interesting article. Maybe i am a descendent of genghis khan!!!!!!1-lol

[gta_master1987]

wow that's sumthing i didn't know!

[dim8sum]

yes wow and thats scary, you never know who could be related to you

[kyuubi90]

Thats funny, how one man has can have that much descendants

[dragonash_se7en]

unbelievable !!!

[tamagodaisuki]

that is kinda hard to believe - no then again in the past people would marry their own relatives.

[lantyz]

Yeah, We are all family

[TurtleJai]

Bet he's just a kidnapping rapist...

[zihe]

he gets the ladies!!!

[xiaobing]

WOW!! thats pretty cool and neat. so its kinna like evry1 is related really close 1 outta 10 or sumthn maybe? is related that makes up for the taiwanese ppl probably too becasue they came from china.

[kiki730]

lol too funny

[yourmovesire]

that guy must not have been very picky

[JolinTsai888]

LOL not very picky at all to make so many off spring or probably he had eyesight problems since i dont believe they had glasses back then lol

[puffypee]

crazy.... but cool to b a chinese!!

[michaelc]

At least he was busy every day lol -rockon

[leefooleong]

But then Adam was the father of all human race..................

[armanix_99]

yes

[rom30vo]

no wonder why china's so overpopulated...jk

[jonyblayze]

now thats what i call a man whore

[nicolaisi]

hahaha....

[gni]

lmao

[linyong]

is this for real?

[Raymo]

hm... I guess it's time to reveal the truth... the real and first man of the chinese descendent is actually... ME! =D

[Nirvania]

wow, he is a P-I-M-P

[superkar]

HAHAHA omg that is soooo wrong

[vi3tg0d4n]

lol^^

what a horny man.

[goeatc]

LOL wow thats a crapload of people

wonder how many wives he got>_>

[titi]

gosh.....if u think about it....we may be dating one of our long lost cousins......gross!

[warriors]

maybe this will sparks us to follow suit wahahaha

[aussiekid]

walao weh... 1.5mil..
omg gengkhis khan 500 wives? omg.. so horny men .. haihz..

[bopper78]

Ah, this is nothing. Might I remind everyone of a guy named Adam. 6.6 Billion people descended from this one man :) (reference: The bible).

[Nirvania]

some ppl dont believe the bible, excuse me

[bopper78]

some ppl dont believe the bible, excuse me

So what if some people do not believe the bible, if you do not like the reference then provide another one. Your kind of negative criticism and religious persecution is not welcomed.

[altongoh]

oh my god.... ewww

[duzzie]

lol...i read an article from the Science News that 8% of the Asian population carries genes from Genghis Khan...now that's a huge family right there...

[red_eyes_arena]

o.O... thats kinda... weird... no comment...

[gjc90210]

He is one tired man. There are probably 10 women on his bed (on standby) even when he's sleeping.

[sherwinneo]

haha... u will nvr noe... u might even be related to your neighbours! or mayb even the president!?!?

[sp-lork]

whoaa...its disturbing and cool. he probbably had so many ladies he can't even remember if some of them are his daughters. now THATS nasty. ahahah. so that means im practically related to everyone! ahahha. heck..i bet i have a relative in this forum! -lol

[thebestofme]

hmmm able to make lots of children

[haobuhao]

there was a program on discovery called the search for adam. they ound that all living people decended from one man. they did by tracing through all the knoww dna they have recorded to date.

[1980]

... no comment

[badbadtz560]

what happend to the last names tho? shouldnt' those carry on? My last name is so rare that I know i'm related to every person w/ the same last name... easier to trace all the way back through history :D

[surplusletterbox]

HOLD ON If this bloke Giocangga had 1.5 million Chinese descended. Then his dad has 1.5 m + 1 ? And his grand dad has 1.5m + 2 at least ? Surely his dad and his grand dad had more descendants! So the argument is why put all the credits to this one bloke and not to his ancesters???

[twistedltg]

Having so many relatives is scary. Who knows, maybe one of the peopel we marry later on might turn out to be our sister or cousin.

[b0obie]

thats nuts, wonder if im a descendant lol

[Leto]

no wonder i have so many relatives O.o

[aknpr]

wow that is some serious work
this guy is amazing

[myiek@hotmail.com]

in a way....the entire world population is decended from one man and one woman...so all of us are related somehow haha =)

[adrianc]

OMFG.

We all related.

[aznchickenchowmein]

haha u never noe. if u date it back even further, we might all be related. haha. but wouldnt that be a guy's dream since u have so many partners? hey they got a taste of variety

[Dragnx]

very interesting. Never going to know when you going to be marrying your cousin.

[madkute]

hm, that's is interesting in a weird way.

[wongeh28]

thats very interesting.... we are all brothers lol

peace

[wuzixi]

Woah............0_o

[nyckeion]

so thats why stereotypes work for us we are all from the same great X10 grand daddy

[nestee]

thats amazing

[krazyaznboi]

that means we all could be brother and sister...

[devonyu415]

dang, i thought it was ghengus khang. lmao

[lynxd]

very interesting.. but thats like 1/1000th of the Chinese population in China..

[korx]

So does this prove Adam Eve did not exist? If they did we would all have the same Y chromosome -=P. Take that bible!

[rave13]

These people are the true players.

[locustdd]

Got to avoid inbreeding .... marry a person of another race or keep single.

[daddicter]

if qing royal line has 1.5 million descendants, then i wonder how many descendants there are from an emperor of Han or Zhou lol

[Lith]

ewwwww! yeah is it kinda gross >_>

[surplusletterbox]

Hold on, surely Genghis Khan's dad or grand dad had more descendants.....and if you carry on going up the family tree then Genghis Khan's ancestors had millions more and Genghis Khan himself is a descendant of the ancestors that time forgot?! And if you go back far enough we all descended from some monkeys with lots of hair!

[Jun]

our great(x50)grandad maybe? lol (http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2003/jun/humanfossil/idaltu.html)

Thats an artist's reconstruction based on a 160,00 years old modern human fossil

[tdmt]

what a pervert

[intense85]

That's amazing to be having that many people tied to one person!!!!

[duckie21]

damn no more chinese girls for me... might turn out to be a relative... haha

[hohohln35]

that's crazy! x_x

[chow7]

sounds unbelievable...

[haobuhao]

this is true genetically they can tracce men lineage based upon mutations of male genes. scientifically we all have descended from one man what do you think about that

[razorw]

that's pretty crazy stuff.

[pirvee]

whow...thats quite a story.....it could be true that they(those peeps in ancient times) 'changed' bedpartner every night.....with a reservoir of more than '3000' concubines.(后宮三千)

[.Cameron]

Poor people... all relatives

[magmags]

whoa, oh my goodness, that's so crazy!

[denislabonkink]

His legacy will never end. :-)

[ChilliChidori]

In 100 hundred years the number will increase. :)