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kaveyn
01-27-2007, 02:16 PM
the most of ppls believes in ghost and ar very afraid of that but why dont they believe in god?
i think when it exist devils so it must exist a god...

kdotc
01-27-2007, 02:19 PM
theres and god and there's a devil

Knoctur_nal
01-27-2007, 02:21 PM
hmph....u say ghosts...are ghosts(if indeed they do exist) associated with the devil...hmph....

hiake
01-27-2007, 02:50 PM
I don't believe in ghost, much less God. Plus, ghost do not acknowledge the existence of God. It acknoledge the existence of a perhaps-after life, but if there is Hell and Heaven as God had said (or so did Bible said), there shouldn't be ghost now, should it?
So ghost are more likely to refute God, IMHO.

nicole
01-27-2007, 11:42 PM
I believe god existed but not the devil. The devil is more like myth.

kdotc
01-27-2007, 11:51 PM
^ if u follow the bible u'll knwo there's a heaven and a hell

THF20
01-28-2007, 02:30 PM
I think devil is a god fm Hell. On the other hand, there are different kind of god...

smallrinilady
02-06-2007, 06:49 PM
the devil is a fallen angel
he was actually the angel of music

so for the longest time, it was a sin to sing
so lots of christian religions (during the dark ages) had conflicting views oh hymns and praises


oh by the way, i also believe in ghosts, but maybe as demons trying to mess with you

master_g
02-14-2007, 08:13 PM
Ghosts are demons pretending to be departed humans, the reason is to fool people, it causes people to think "oh that person was bad, never know God, yet he isnt in hell". its all a lie from hell.

Same with so called aliens too....

the bible tells us to sing hymns and praises, but in mans foolish attempt to make Gods word better he implemented his own rules possibly outlawing hymns and praises.

hiake - you say ghost/demon do not acknowledge the existence of God?, how wrong can u be. demons DO acknowledge the existence of God, even if you, a non believer is ever confronted by a demon, all youll have to say is "leave in Jesus name" and it will leave at once. the only spirits that do not fear God are human spirits that can attack and afflict people though methods such as astral projection, they have freewill and can do what they want. if your protected by Jesus then they cant hurt you, if your not then youll have trouble.

as a Christian this is my main areas concerning what ive learnt and been taught. if anyone needs help or advice or info just ask :)

ab289
02-14-2007, 08:32 PM
Devil, if I'm not mistaken is Lucifer, one of God's fallen angel. Well, I don't know about ghosts and goblins (I prefer NOT to see any of them AT ALL if they do exists). I have my opinions about religion and God in another thread which I do not want to repeat it here. Anyways, hell or heaven; it sure is entertaining if it's Hollywood's interpretation of it. There were a few good movies, which of course I can't think of it on top of my head now.

and btw, as far as my avatar goes, I don't think i'm evil enough to be a devil; i just like the pic ...

hiake
02-14-2007, 11:57 PM
Ghosts are demons pretending to be departed humans, the reason is to fool people, it causes people to think "oh that person was bad, never know God, yet he isnt in hell". its all a lie from hell.

Same with so called aliens too....

the bible tells us to sing hymns and praises, but in mans foolish attempt to make Gods word better he implemented his own rules possibly outlawing hymns and praises.

hiake - you say ghost/demon do not acknowledge the existence of God?, how wrong can u be. demons DO acknowledge the existence of God, even if you, a non believer is ever confronted by a demon, all youll have to say is "leave in Jesus name" and it will leave at once. the only spirits that do not fear God are human spirits that can attack and afflict people though methods such as astral projection, they have freewill and can do what they want. if your protected by Jesus then they cant hurt you, if your not then youll have trouble.

as a Christian this is my main areas concerning what ive learnt and been taught. if anyone needs help or advice or info just ask :)

Perhaps you are right, but I have yet to see the proof with my own eyes, neither ghost nor demons nor the so-called God dawned on me as of yet. So I have to maintain my belief that ghost is the antithesis of hell -- consider, if hell is not all enveloping that demons or devils can escape, how omnipotent is the God worshipped?

master_g
02-15-2007, 07:48 AM
demons and fallen angels can come up and go down to hell hiake, one a select few are bound there by chains as the bible says. hell is not enveloping, but if your a human spirit down there then there is no escape because your time is up. demons and fallen angels can leave at will because there time in not yet up. hope that clears up a few misunderstandings.

unfortunatly, to believe in the true God u need faith, after acepting God with faith he will begin to reveal himself to you. its a wast of time arguing that point because thats the way it is.

BUT.... the bible speaks of a false prophet of satan who will come possibly in your lifetime and he will have all the false signs, miracles and proof your looking for. if you have Faith, you can follow Jesus, but for those without faith, satan is more than happy to trick them into following him. time will tell.

cfirekev
02-17-2007, 09:30 PM
i believe ying and yang

Popularasian
02-21-2007, 04:39 AM
Both devil and god exist. But while people believe there is a god, they just dont believe IN him...

master_g
02-21-2007, 11:49 AM
Has anyone noticed that all religions and beliefs are about us reaching up to God or becoming a god, but christianity is the only religion were God reaches down to us.

P.S when i say christianity i am not talking about roman catholicism.

smallrinilady
02-21-2007, 07:35 PM
and btw, as far as my avatar goes, I don't think i'm evil enough to be a devil; i just like the pic ...

that's the one of those linux daemons



the most of ppls believes in ghost and ar very afraid of that but why dont they believe in god?
i think when it exist devils so it must exist a god...


i'm just curious, what makes you believe there are devils (first, before you question if there is a god)

nyckeion
03-07-2007, 06:10 PM
i dont think much that ghost are associated with the devil cause if anything shouldnt the devil be torturing them

Stephanie_Ng18
03-13-2007, 01:08 PM
if you believe that there's a God or gods, than there are/is the devil

saikira
03-14-2007, 11:33 AM
well, i dont hav any religion so i dont noe!!!!
so my answer is no god or devil

vortex222
03-17-2007, 01:52 AM
The creation of this image of God and the Devil is not known. Some think that God and the Devil were created for security and relief/hope for a greater beyond but no one has ever witnessed this.
But within every human being there is a god and a devil.
So in the end did God create us or did we create God?

hiake
03-17-2007, 11:11 AM
The creation of this image of God and the Devil is not known. Some think that God and the Devil were created for security and relief/hope for a greater beyond but no one has ever witnessed this.
But within every human being there is a god and a devil.
So in the end did God create us or did we create God?

So it's just the tiny people standing on your shoulder eh? I call them my conscience. ;)

vortex222
03-17-2007, 03:17 PM
yea...basically your conscience

kdotc
03-17-2007, 04:22 PM
i bet u're the devil's advocate

smallrinilady
03-18-2007, 04:06 PM
The creation of this image of God and the Devil is not known. Some think that God and the Devil were created for security and relief/hope for a greater beyond but no one has ever witnessed this.
But within every human being there is a god and a devil.
So in the end did God create us or did we create God?


ha ha ha, sounds like you popped out of the world of Eva (Neon Evangelion Genises)

doungtawan
04-01-2007, 12:28 PM
I believe GOD exist and so does evil.

fearless_fx
04-04-2007, 09:15 PM
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/hprajani/phun/god-v-satan.png

satan ftw

Knoctur_nal
04-04-2007, 09:47 PM
and what is that chart supposed to prove..exactly...

fearless_fx
04-04-2007, 09:52 PM
well the numbers are pretty obvious, and since this thread is about god and satan i suppose its just there to give people a different perspective on what they believe.

Knoctur_nal
04-04-2007, 09:57 PM
and how many did hitler kill...

fearless_fx
04-04-2007, 10:08 PM
according to http://www.fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/people/victims.htm he killed over 11 million jews... nothing compared to God lol

Knoctur_nal
04-04-2007, 10:12 PM
and how many also died in the slave trade...

fearless_fx
04-04-2007, 10:15 PM
lol im not gonna be your bitch and go around lookin for death rates :P do your own research

Knoctur_nal
04-04-2007, 10:18 PM
well...technically u already did that...also..and if u cant figure out where i was going by asking those questions..to which i already knew the answers.....then its a lost cause....

xiaojia
04-05-2007, 02:02 AM
well...technically u already did that...also..and if u cant figure out where i was going by asking those questions..to which i already knew the answers.....then its a lost cause....

fearless_fx: How did God end up with such stats in ur chart?

hmm.. interesting how deaths are attributed to God or Satan..

hiake
04-05-2007, 12:58 PM
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/hprajani/phun/god-v-satan.png

satan ftw

I knew it! Satan need not constant blood baths to assure his evil, but God on the contrary require constant bloodshreds to show his almighty judgment power which is omnipresent and oh-so-omnibenevolent.

fearless_fx: How did God end up with such stats in ur chart?

hmm.. interesting how deaths are attributed to God or Satan..

If it's any consolation, the stats showed the number of people killed in the name of God, at the very least.

MaFan8788
04-08-2007, 07:49 PM
there is a god and a devil... why because we (generalizing here) are all dependent on some sort of god and devil one way or another.